David Chiu's flextime

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I'm not surprised that the folks at the Chamber of Commerce are all agitated about Sup. David Chiu's proposal to expand family-friendly scheduling at local businesses. The Chamber's Jim Lazarus is typically out of control:

"At some point, people are not going to want to create businesses in San Francisco when they have to go up to City Hall for a hearing every time an employee doesn't like their reason for not agreeing to a shorter workweek," Lazarus said. "Are we going to close for the month of August like France? Is that the next one?"

For the record, I'm all in favor of the French way of thinking about work. But you already know that.

Here's the crazy thing, though: The Chiu legislation is actually remarkably mild. All it says is that a worker at a company with more than 10 employees has the right to request a different work schedule. The word here is "request." The company can deny the request if would "create an undue hardship for the company or organization, including an increase in costs or a detrimental effect on the ability to meet customer or client demands."

Folks: That's a huge, broad exemption. If giving an employee the right to work at home sometimes (actually, a good idea for lots of reasons, including climate change) or the right to start or end a shift early or late, costs any money or causes any real disruption in the business, then management is exempt and can deny the request.

All the law would really do is elevate the idea of flextime to something that has to be considered if someone asks for it. And you can't be fired for asking.

If the Chamber is going to go ballistic about this, it's way out of step. A lot of businesses in the city already comply with at least the spirit of the Chiu law. I don't see this as a huge issue for anyone.

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business how employers and employees choose to structure their work days.

Some employers that have historically had "work at home" policies have abandoned them (Yahoo is a significant example IIRC) because it is too open to abuse.

It's all very well saying that it just allows a request but then, if that is all it is, then employees can ask for that now. And employers can say no. So what difference will this make?

The difference is clear. If an employer says no, then an employee can no doubt appeal to some city tribunal where a clueless "administrative law judge" will adjudicate.

If you want an odd schedule, then ask for it. no need to legislate it.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 2:15 pm

Because you are totally incapable of seeing the other point of view, even when it is explained to you.

Posted by anon on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 2:23 pm

All tech/biotech companies already do because it makes sense and makes for happier employees.

My issue is Chiu and others acting as if this will address the fundamental issue involved in why people leave San Francisco - which is the school selection system and the high cost of housing. It won't. Not one single family is going to say "We should move to/stay in San Francisco because there's a chance we can get a flexible schedule." Not one. This is another feel-good measure which ignores the real reasons families move out of the city. Because addressing that would require facing down progressive interest groups with real power and our BOS is not interested in that at all.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

Chiu is eyeing his next office. This legislation allows him to say he is looking out for families while he pushes through legislation like the condo conversion deal that is bad for families but appeases the tenant bloc.

Posted by The Commish on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 2:42 pm

Mayor, in the face of left-wing criticism, which has led to a very popular mayor. He correctly saw the demise of the hard left and trashed Daly on the alter of being more relevant to a changed political dynamic.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 2:51 pm

Speaking of which. Whatever happened to Daly and it being "on like Donkey Kong?" Is he still living in that foreclosed home he purchased out in Fairfield?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 5:11 pm
Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 5:18 pm

Where rich hypocrites go to retire :D

Posted by Houseguest on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 1:36 am

Actually, the early robotics drone experiments, were nothing of Leland yee ' s era at uh. Barking up wrong tree, guys, joint venture, moscow academy of sciences, rice, other entities, sorry. Honesty, people. Nothing to do with Hawaii or honolulu, buh traffic to nw and other areas. But, recall, way back, loomis armored was called to figure out some of the caged experiments, then stopped, as not the same. Sort of hybrid, such as the 8 housed together throughout their teens, flown together, nm, az, then become whinsec became fort benning.

Burman should explain a bit of partial drone experiments, miner's town growing up, Ray Duane hill of kpft, honest frank's kin history and which eri..., spit it out, come on. Those understanding protested early school of the americas, but, it was not any officially accused project, just the diversity of means to counter.

The drone experiments are pretty fragile. Ok, take one, sort of test tube brat. The mom sentenced early, forever, pregnant. From the time of conception until after birth, that intense conditiining. Los chinos? Nonsense, felix, most not involved at all, even still not, no matter how assuming chiu or other mejicano-wannabes, are still kids. What happened in the experiments before and after birth of those pregnant women, not able to be deported to the nation of origin, was basically chaotic, not really officially anyone's particular delegated mucking.

Remember debbie nathan published about people inappropriate to have daycares, considered, "satanic," when meticulously reversing the baby jesus story. Tunnelvision, basically, same type of source code modified to undo any religion, any one, pretty similar. The undo ganesh thing, pretty similar, mid-80s, to the undo baby jesus, first born swapped with test-tube-indocumento type experimenting, with tons chasing test tube type kid.

why. That is the point. Military and other devout arrogance, "it is not possible, ha, I don't believe it, show me." Wagers, bets, show us. Do a .... on, those people. "Show us some of the real live textbook voodoo involved." When that was s generic word. "They believe voodoo is real, but if you just do not believe in it, it just is not real." It was just a generic term for medicine for war, from any old cultures around the globe. Dares. Wagers.

That is what mostly contributed to test tube type fetal and post natal old drone type demonstrations. How many cultures around the globe, plus inhabiting the ground we stand upon, prepared those to serve some servile role, prepared by working with the mom when in the womb and after birth for a time? Many.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 5:17 pm

Problems were just as stated from some of DIA, bottom line.

The Berlin Wall fell, plus there was international cooperation for peaceful relations between nations. Good and bad attempts. Unfortunately, catch words, police, communism, voodoo, adoption, translated very poorly, meant tunnelvision and arrogance, none of your business unless enlisted with which nitwits, not, not, as dependent upon dia, as they know, they know, they should have always been. People tended to pretend they misinterpreted what they were told, too, when, shhhhhh, local public relations teams won out.

people still did not understand what gave rise to "communism" had nothing to do with the common use of that word. Meaningless, or economic opposite nonsense. A word means what the speaker is trying to refer to, so, sit with the speaker and take the time to figure out what they are trying to say.

and, well, remember, after Berlin Wall crash, get the aga what, well, nairobi, cairo dad's, the Bengali, oops, bhutto, Ali akbar, and, then with calls for international cooperation, what happened with gun fanatics? That word. Big long word. Sounds a little like it starts with "poliz......" ? So, trekkers, accompanied by nitwits as just body guards, why ask a body guard, about that "poliz....." word, the international, cooperation team specified, so kindly? Instead of diplomatic people? Through going through frigan DIA, remember DIA? Not code to guess, might mean, well, look at cities police? In usa, commonwealths, that word police, is used for cities. Instead of just writing down that huge specific word, to only mean that huge multi level old retired what it once was, when international cooperation was trying to be so nice. They really were, mostly, responsibly.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 5:46 pm

and for Tim to even mention climate change in his post when all he does is bitch about the Google buses is just about the funniest thing I've heard all week.

sell your car yet, Tim, or is being carless just good policy for other people?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 3:14 pm

Not that I believe in global warming anyway.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 3:19 pm

Why people leave San francisco.

The texas governor has been pleading to get people to Austin.

not just register to vote and vote, but participate. Find a few candidates who are basically healthy please, not fair that california has most sent to sacramento, at least literate and basically functiinal.

to get traffic to austin to seek jobs with every level of government, please. Now. Now, please. Please.

To participate in the Democratic process at each level, please. Choose, instead, people who are basically healthy and functionally literate to apply for government oversight jobs with the state, to make policies.

That way, all levels of government, might be able, to start a basic health, sanity, literacy test, perhaps help people retire. Help. Help. Help people retire. Complicated, railroad commission, ooooo, that jjjjjj!!! Well, pr, say, it must be that little french speaking little jjjjj, going to school in concord, california, instead of big, big, wacko jjjjj, with same names, railroad commission crisis not over little train nitwits either. Count oil and gas companies in texas? Fed. Ct. Cajun crayfish alligator catching boondocks, where?

If chiu is embarrassed, if Tim loses cause or wager, what does the future hold?

the huge crisis, was, to try. To try harder. To get the coopers to drive out there. Get all NON DRONE remaining, together, for conferencing.

Separate the non born drone experimental indocumentado test tube torture experiments in the womb in caged environments, from the unreasonable, who together tend to say what is what, loudest. Offering tons of $$$$, all the time, "if you.......you get a grant!"

Of course nobody ever stated a person in california. If course, people specifically stated those holding southern California IN CHAINS, legally, out of state, all, alll, neighboring state jurisdictions, all.

chiu, tim, cease disrespect. Now. Stop. And, think. Consider, Chan's copycat. Chan sponsored, smarter. The whole CLLA pioneers. More talented, more capable. Guess who copied him, competed, down to same tailored, same style ostrich boots, the competitive chan copycat. Sen. Ted cruz.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 6:53 pm

I’m bending my mind around the concept of municipal codification of free speech when it comes to simply asking for something from an employer.

Has Chiu actually been there? We've been his primary employer.

Posted by Tom Ferriole on Jun. 12, 2013 @ 7:04 pm

employer and a worker. He wants the nanny state to be the go-between.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 13, 2013 @ 6:12 am

we had two blue bins at work, I got a letter from some clown at the department of environment about not having a green bin. I told the person in an e-mail that there was not a green bin because there was not enough room as per the law, and that we had a problem with vermin.

The city flunky could not figure out e-mail and called and called, then e-mailed that she would drop by and check things out on a certain date, she never came by on that date or any other.

The city is full of idea men like Redmond who think it is the cities job to tell us all how to live, the city employees are lazy, stupid, and entitled.

Posted by matlock on Jun. 14, 2013 @ 12:17 am
Posted by Guest on Jun. 13, 2013 @ 2:03 pm

We learn that city bureaucrats are tormenting the Tamale lady, and that sucks.

There are never enough laws, unless progressives get screwed by one of them.

Posted by matlock on Jun. 14, 2013 @ 12:20 am

OMG, is this Tim's last column EVER in the SFBG after 30 years of service? Is this how he is to be sent off into the sunset and down the preverbial River Styx?

You should let him write a nice memoir piece at least. Something to clear the air and not ruffle any feathers. Something to keep us all sane.

Posted by Edward on Jun. 14, 2013 @ 5:53 pm

Marke will take over and I feel sure he will do an adequate job, in perhaps a more camp way . . . ?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 14, 2013 @ 6:01 pm

Given the timing of the announcement (late Friday afternoon), it doesn't sound as if Tim's departure was particularly voluntary...

Posted by Sam on Jun. 14, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

Well, at least we know that Marke will keep fighting the good fight for one and all.

He's a good trooper. He will continue Tim's legacy. Of this I am confident.

Posted by Edward on Jun. 15, 2013 @ 2:41 am

to be seen if he can hande the weightier subjects and lend enough gravitas.

Steven would have been a more heavyweight choice, although he too suffers from wanting to only write about sex, drugs and Burning Man. JAW has similar limitations.

SFBG may devolve into a "what's on" rag with much less political freight, and perhaps that will be fine.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2013 @ 5:44 am

Folks, THIS is the very last piece Tim every wrote for SFBG.

This is the culmination of a 30-year career started under Bruce's tutelage, and ended by some guy saying he 'accepts Tim's resignation letter' even though Tim never wrote one of those.

How degrading is that? I, and the Progressive Community, are flabbergasted.

Posted by Irene on Jun. 15, 2013 @ 8:20 pm

He brought it on himself. The majority of Progressives were never really interested in changing anything. If you think you were, you're deluding yourself. To affect change, one must either try talk to the enemy and try and compromise, or start handing out rifles. Fortunately, violence is not what Progressives are about. Unfortunately, indiscriminate hatred and slandering the opposition rather than actually trying to reach some kind of agreement IS what Progressives are about. So there was never any real effort made to bring about the things they wanted. Tim was a very visible person in the movement and, when people finally started to see Progressives for the emotionally damaged and socially challenged rage-babies they really are, the public's perception of Tim's whole personality was colored by his political and intellectual immaturity.

Tim became an embarrassment. All you have to do is look back over the last year or so and see where he wrote that he'd rather his little kid walk eye-level past a line of cock than a condominium, or that crack cocaine isn't harmful to society because he once had a neighbor down the hall who smoked it and the worst thing the guy ever did was ask Tim if he could borrow a few $'s.

I, for one, am glad he's gone. And, once the rest get shit-canned, I'll be even happier :) Why? Because Tim facilitated and enabled a rift in our citizenry, causing it to be widened into a chasm. Shame on him. If a man is so burnt out that he can't see when he's arbitrarily persecuting people based on some cookie-cutter communist, enemy visual identification checklist, then he's not a man who can be reasoned with. If you can't work with people to get things done, then what good are you?

Posted by Snoozers on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 12:15 am

Loved the line about Tim would rather his kids walk past a line of wrinkly cocks than a condo. Classic.

Tim was mired in class warfare, identity politics and the projection of hate and envy based on stereotypes. That never helps and will not be missed.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 7:37 am

This was Tim Redmond's last column ever in the SFBG.

The end of a beautiful era.

Posted by Anony on Jul. 29, 2013 @ 11:02 am

Understanding language, one of the most important things one can do.

Of course, some try to shoulder a lot. Maybe, 9-11, wasn't the best idea, after all, though most unners, really wanted to close it down there, midtown, manhattan. 90% of the what released from all over nys, were shipped to manhattan for parole and what? Is that bright or a dumb idea? Everybody wanted to get house movers to just move all the world trade buildings, the un, lots having to hq in nj, to california of course. For how many years? Duh.

Cartoon characters, for action adventure wagers, when physically flattened, do not just immediately puff out. Sick bay for specified time, then up as new.

A lot consider such. Ok, so, recall, chan was going to be sponsored in the office. Those boots, the braid, the this and that, every part of it, with the whole clla pioneer Harvard crew, plus what.

so, consider, Ted cruz, the copycat, following chan, help from a bit of these here, old Loomis-chafee-alumni, clique, old roots. Some people can hold up, but, sometimes, for international peace and cooperation, to help heal them and therefore heal the planet, it takes a little support.

that is #1 where the chinese fail. #1. Send one great person, way off, by its l9nesome, and expect if it is flattened like a cartoon character, it just puffs out, immediately fine. Or bruce lee, shaw brothers, a superhuman action adventure hero, by its lonesome, against impossible odds. Impossible odds, every way, way, impossible as one. Latinos congregate together in group support, pick each other up when fallen, etc.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 6:11 pm

Everything dramatized in the early 70s, to avoid, in details, was forced, in more detail, Each time. And the LBJ teams, just get a person with the same name but what, as all went through, do not do. In each way, legally, physically, forced. A Barbara cypress creek library not undoing, but totally reflecting the cypress creek haoli old predictions of the late 60s and 70s, each time forced. Each good person, once so wholesome, when held forever, each in their office, hanging the diplomas of the held, on office walls, proving they are the one held, going by the pushing of what the good person didnot want and advised against, to force it, has their sort of veterinary twist.

Do this, that. Notes of natiins top great people, shrink teams, the decent, nixon years. The twist, pretending to be the one held or dead, using sort of their own, animal science type methods. Jump through hoops, practice, doggie, theme. Not really taught, in medical school, as how to abuse humans as if animals to train. I think, take the practice run, cruz went through with roberts, romney, the rest, each medellin v. Texas, practice run, before, angel maturino resendez, real test, of the number of teams involved. Shrink-not-shrink, role-not-role, reflects, a little of that rebelled against, by radically tea partiers, right, and drone raised left reflecting it.

When someone resembles a famously trusted and good person, replaced and held, part of the animal science overtones, tend to be of the replacement ' s cultural roots in that respect. It was simply because of very old policy. Locally, I guess. Why? Because of the intense conditioning and bonding, inseparability, years spent behind bars, for someone sitting in an office of one held? Switching places, good guy held forever, look alike in his office, why? Because of the policies over time. Train everyone in his or the next cell block, a skill for release, better to teach them together to work with animals as a trade in preparation for their release, collectively as a bonding unit.

The deep south cultural roots, cajun backwoods over texas, overseen and handled in traditional terms, applied, but, rebelled against traditionally, when military forever overseeing everything, anything they want, gets into trying to do what those over command appear to be doing, it does crash. Good people, on the internet, during nixon times and before, recalled, John glenn?, many others? Held, deceased, whatever. Of course one reacts to one in his or her place, going by same notes differently. An old degree when textbooks and publishing were meticulous, a long time ago, is very different knowledge, than the experience of one with a little modern studies, enslaved to take their place after release. In addition to the bonding influence, of those of surrounding cell blocks all those years, pushed to work on pigs, cows, whatever, better focus them with that training after release per old policies in local traditiins, rooted long before lbj. Do they want to help, get involved, root for their former cell block friend, lookalike, of some famous good, decent, scholar? Meaning how well? But the team helping out, of course can be understood, especially, with animal training, veterinary focus, collectively geared up, when helping muck with a human, as if an animal to train and work with. Each actor presented in the news, a lookalike, "it's hollywood!" Said nixon? No it is not. When someone great or famous, known, is held, alookalike prepared and released to be as if them, iIt is so amateur, no self - respecting hollywood team member would be as goofy in that, as done, texas ranch farming style, submitting to cajun and out of state district bordering jurisdictiins.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 1:37 am

It is really hard, to network, pooling a tad, deceptively, which does not help much.

Many do such. Most networks and philanthropy. They fund or network with some foundation or non-profit. Which states, your chunk is largest, you are top dog, we do what you want. But, there is an ancient chinese saying.

Big fish eat little fish.

so, when some say to each, your funds put you top dog, whatever you want. To how many. What has been #1 the longest? Silverstone? Josh what? A great book-signing, but what? Prenatal care is good. Great example. But all cultures, old ones, had sort of drone type creations for roles, just for wars.

Not just the horrible summit, sacred burial, maybe a thousand years ago? Before commanches. Apaches, coahuila roots, below 28 of Junio how far? Mixing religious and medicine traditions, how long ago? Pick up rocks, look, if it hides under a rock. There is a rock, maybe something is hiding under it. Crews, what extent of bigotry, not what people may think, in terms of how much does seed really matter? Before sadaam, old baghdad, sides. Mixed with what, prenatal preparation ancient science of droning for wars, a role of a human being, prepared in the womb, and after birth, how much, for just the role of a drone for wars?

Renounce what citizensjip, choices, on plane, will, ap, weis-sert - what on earth?

How many people sent to iraq? What about poor spain, peace efforts?

Defending what? Excuse me, what size was the older kid with rulers? How large, what age?

Osama bin Laden of syria, more clueless. Not dubai here, really, of dynasties of what baghdad rising, at least since how long? There is.a Robert Redford film about running out of water, which covers some of the ground where river levels are going down, because us.cities use a lot of water, plus other films of such areas. Trail of tears type of movements, combining old sunni iraqi lines of picky pecking order genealogical seed issues, that which caused so much, for each chui, yip, chan, matsu, pham, you name it. How long, centuries?

travel below, the combined ancient folklores. Did just the scientologist comply when involved with countless, in the math tutor, killings, the number of people dying? As a small scale war? Warnings, how long, annan, moon, ashe, all?

Who says people are conspiring with the enemy, screaming at senators? Yes, turn one away from forefathers, to undo the bad, as if defecting, has much advisory merit. But it also has a lot of limitations, too, because of old foots.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 4:06 pm

Here we go again, sadaam drained the rice fields, cities on the.border were using too much water, drying up rivers of sadaamese, heritage society holier seed whatever, how old settlements below the border, how long? Why did people go to wars in iraq, what did people fight for? The Saudi a hinted, umpteenth generation seeds, etc., syrians, bin ladens, too. Again, The hypnotism and medicine traditions combined with that before Apache settlements, centuries?

The absolute terror of so many chan, pham, matsu, bahasa, you name it, from what people dealt with, how long? Since ping lee, overturn exclusion laws? So, after Betty Yee died, at 100, in phoenix, can an old pecking order seed line, sadaam heeded, really be that defector functional, is still the question, each alice now. Stay away from one whose natural father was shared with one enforcing slavery, work camp, a decade for free, when packing what many griped about, in cabinet and elsewhere? Whose kin pack benches in higher jurisdictions, yes, try. And another comes, back again, again fall hard, organized, wagered, on radio. Sometimes defectors can stand up to some things, Renounce what, but only in limited things, often, without more understanding and support, when soviet defecting is not the same as defecting from old Saudi and syrians bin Laden described seed issues, where it is fragile.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 4:28 pm

Um... Holy WTF???

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 4:36 pm

And, some bonding sisters types, doing all kinds of fanatical stuff, Randy shade provides an out of closet example to pecking order of umpteenth generation over sadaam old heritage rooted ancestry - genealogy stuff, and the hill burial site issues, get that command, to put lower seed sadaams, to kick persians? Put higher seeded genealogy pecking order seeded folk, to order sadaam, get those persians, for what?

Sadaam seed a few notches up, defecting supposedly, which is real fragile sometimes, meaning well, overwhelmed at times. Seed over sunni-pecking-order-sadaam, supposed to be better for peace? Not legally in the usa, so, why provide examples? Points being, that such is fragile. Of course, some orientals have been spooked, including any age, any time, by fragile iraqi, teams, mixed with other roots, but still considered calculated what generation whatever.

stick iraqi - male seed sired, in the commonwealth Buckingham pools, instead of just relaxing difficult born into what laws? Why? It is too hard on such, when some take a lot of advantage of that. Not fair, to chius, leland yees, chans, latino - wannabes, why, zorro - based roles, older PRI, PAN, tons more, cordoba, El gauchos, gujaratis, you name diversity.

Should sadaams, shahs, whatevers, be commanded by higher seed? That which sure scared how many oriental hopes for peace, for friendly human rights progressives in chinas and elsewhere. Being fair is decent.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 4:57 pm

There was an old term haoli, how, but, how far did it go, as far as jonestown refections? Cypress creek's,, reflecting, cypress creek docks to row to jonestown? Dubai ' s explanations? What became the haoli hisd, situation, in confusion? The seed of higher pecking order on Sadaam's line, so, ariana huffington, let's have it, for starters, a little more in depth. Alicia, the Josh lawyer, pr take, great same themes in movies, of identical issues, produced, but, the main thing, the umpteenth generation male seed line, sadaam and team always reacted to, over their heads. Just like the saudis, syrians, yangseeds for dubai, dramatized, hint, why did Sadaam's believe it was whatever seeded over his and his peoples' heads? When used, get those homophones persians, sadaam's, what does that mucking attract? Defecting from being male side seeded whatever pecking orders masses believe, how long?

Sincloas, versus what? Perhaps the biggest issue still, the sacred graves of those old natives, on the hill, still after they were thrown across the border how long ago? Where iraqis settled how long ago? Combining cultures, big cities in the usa draining their rivers dry, watering huge lawns. So, sadaam, drain rice fields, copy, masses respond to higher heritage type seed stuff.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 5:38 pm

Anyway, if the hamster belonged to one male side higher pecking order seed than sadaam, ready to kick persians, did it attract sadaams or cairo area type secret service type guards to hang around? Or excuses, next door or across the street? At the time one male order iraqi seed whatever was in eugene? That sort of thing reminds us, hybrid or electric transportation development brainstorming could happen somehow. Mitchell was considered fracking pioneer, but tried harder than future generations to develop alternatives.

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 6:05 pm

Of course, it is and was excruciating to watch some who made it through linton, to the usa out of taipei, to become enslaved by iraqis on the other side again, as around here, chasing out there, as before. Why does that not help peace, syria casualties, iraq, afganistan, and other conflict areas? Cypress creek docs, babysitters, the Joseph campbell siring litters lines, if that Toby Johnson could tour taipei, maybe Judy linton's father could have a family reunion to chitchat, Toby Johnson technically which side?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 6:53 pm